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Announcement: New venue
We have now moved to Sofitel Munich, Bayerstraße 12, 80335 München
Ishka's 3rd Investing in Aviation Finance: Germany delivers an unrivalled opportunity for high-level networking. This is the industry's only forum connecting German institutional investors and fund managers with the international aviation finance community to stimulate activity within the market and foster new working relationships.
Our carefully curated agenda delivers enriching content to inform and educate German investors and market practioners on the valuable opportunities in aviation finance into 2020 and beyond.
EXPERT INSIGHT FROM OUR SENIOR SPEAKER LINE-UP:
NETWORK WITH CONFIRMED INVESTORS INCLUDING:
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Appraising the appraisers: Have aircraft residual values held up vs expectation?Proof & concept: what appraisers said would happen vs what has actually happ... Main ![]() ![]()
![]() Markus Paul Niedermeier
Head of Aviation
LHI Kapitalverwaltungsgesellschaft mbH
![]() Eddy Pieniazek
Head of Advisory
Ishka
![]() Olga Razzhivina
Director
ORIEL
![]() Yves Germeaux
Managing Director
ATOZ Aviation Finance
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The business case: Can aviation really be classed as an infrastructure investmen...Exploring the characteristics of infrastructure assets and similarities to aviat... Second ![]() ![]()
![]() Frank Segger
Portfolio Manager
KGAL Capital
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Will aviation investments be ESG compliant?What does ESG mean from a European regulatory standpoint?How has aviation made m... Main ![]() ![]()
![]() Oliver Oehri
Founding Partner
CSSP
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The product roulette: Navigating the different points of entry into aviation fin...Our panel of aviation experts will spin the wheel and discuss each of the entry ... Second ![]()
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The product roulette: Navigating the different points of entry into aviation finance for German institutional investors
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Our panel of aviation experts will spin the wheel and discuss each of the entry points within aviation for German investors with differing risk return profiles.
![]() Stephan Sayre
Managing Director
DVB Bank
![]() Leslie Kurshan
Head of Product Development
Marsh UK
![]() Richard Moody
Managing Director - Credit Solutions Group
Deutsche Bank
![]() Joerg Schirrmacher
Head of Transport Finance & Senior Vice President
Helaba/Landesbank Hessen-Thuringen
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Why are airline bankruptcies still happening in a booming environment?What has been the fallout from the recent European airline bankruptcies?How have... Main ![]() ![]()
![]() Matthias Winter
Rechtsanwalt - Partner
Bird & Bird LLP
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Navigating end of lease situations and remarketing aircraftPicking the right asset manager Trading strategies through the leasing cycle and... Second ![]() ![]()
![]() Jochen Baltes
Managing Director
GOAL Aircraft Leasing
![]() Sibylle Paehler
Managing Director
Doric GmbH
![]() Mamoun Kuzbari
Managing Director
Novus Aviation Capital
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Are German investors ready to talk ABS?Why has there been a lack of interest for aircraft ABS in Germany?What assets do... Main ![]() ![]()
![]() Ted O'Byrne
MD, Co Head of Aviation
Carlyle Group
![]() Bertrand Dehouck
Managing Director, Aviation Finance
BNP Paribas
![]() Dan Stone
Executive Vice President
Dubai Aerospace Enterprise
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Trends in Aviation FinanceAviation Finance – Market Overview and OutlookMacroeconomic headwinds for ... Second ![]() ![]()
![]() James Kelly
Partner
KPMG Ireland
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WHO'S ATTENDING?
Just a sample of some of the companies registered to attend includes:
Aergo Capital
AgFe
Air2E GmbH
AllMerus Energy Ltd
ÄrzteVersorgung Westfalen-Lippe
ATOZ Aviation Finance
Avinomics
BayernLB
Bird & Bird
BNP Paribas
Bruski Smeets Lange
Burnham Sterling
Carlyle Group
Castlelake
Commerz Real
CSSP
Dekabank
Deutsche Bank
Deutsche Lufthansa AG
Doric GmbH
Dr. Peters Group
Dubai Aerospace Enterprise
DVB Bank
EMP Structured Assets
Entrust Global
Fortress Investment Group
GOAL Aircraft Leasing
Helaba (Landesbank Hessen-Thueringen)
Hi Fly
HUK Coburg
Investec
KGAL Capital
Landesbank Baden - Wurttemberg (LBBW)
LHI Kapitalverwaltungsgesellschaft mbH
Magi Aviation Capital
Marsh UK
Millennium Capital AS
Norton Rose Fulbright
ORIEL
Pensionskasse Hypovereinsbank
Prime Capital AG
Scope Ratings AG
Talanx
Versorgungswerk der Steuerberater im Land Nordrhein-Westfahlen
Zurich Insurance Group
We caught up with keynote speaker Markus Ohlert, Head of Corporate Aircraft Finance & Financial Fleet Management, Deutsche Lufthansa who shares see his expert outlook on the financing landscape for
airlines and offers a glimpse of what to expect on 26th November in Munich.
Ishka: Is now the best time to be an airline with regards to access to financing? Surely costs must now be at record low?
Markus: "Correct, from Lufthansa’s perspective, accessibility to financing is easy and cost of financing very low. Lufthansa has issued a 500mEUR bond with a five year maturity and a coupon of 0,25%."
Ishka: What financing structures are you favouring and why?
Markus: "We like to mix secured and unsecured financing. With respect to secured financing, we like the JOLCO product for its pricing and reliability. As far as aunsecured financing is concerned, we have mostly used Schuldschein financing as well bond issues, depending on the market situation at the given point in time."
Ishka: JOLCOs have enviably cheap levels of equity - are you tempted to access that market again this year? How do you compare a bond with, say cheap long-form secured debt, like a JOLCO? Do you have a certain ratios you try and keep?
Markus: "We will be closing a JOLCO in December, but have locked in this transaction already a while ago. We expect to go back to the JOLCO market again in 2020, but will decide only step by step how much money we will raise. We constantly compare the cost of unsecured financing with the cost of secured financing, but are willing to live with the higher cost of unsecured financing in order to complement our debt portfolio, depending on the situation at the given point in time."
Ishka: A lot of investors are focused on ESG credentials, in your opinion can aviation qualify as an ESG investment?
Markus: "Lufthansa undertakes every effort to run its operations in a sustainable way, and we see similar activities in wide parts of our industry, but ultimately it will be the markets to decide whether aviation can qualify as an ESG investment."
Ishka: Eurowings has struggled to make a profit, would this challenge be even bigger if Lauda (Ryanair-owned) gets hold of more aircraft and moves to open bases in Germany next year?
Markus: "The point-to-point market in Germany is currently very competitive. This is great for the customers and tough for all market participants. While Eurowings is there to stay it will be interesting to see how the rest of the market will fare in the long run."
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